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i agree. >> gun laws such as the ban on assault weapons that was passed during the clinton administration. it barred the sale of assault rifles, specifically including the ar-15 and high capacity magazines like the 100 shot drum the aurora shooter used. that law had a built in expiration eight yurgs. four years ago then candidate obama supported reviving the law. >> the reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural ohio than those plagued by gang violence in cleveland. don't tell me we can't upheld the second amendment by keeping ak-47s out of the hapnds of criminals. >> he felt the same thing last year after the tucson killing where the killer used a weapon that would have been illegal under the expired law. >> the president since i've been with him in 2004 has supported the assault weapons ban. we continue to do so. >> this dwreer, however, even before the colorado massacre, the white house was already backing away from the issue.
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>> expired in 2004. has the president taken a stand on extending that? >> i'll have to get back to you on that. i don't have any new information on that. >> just today white house spokesman jay carney said the president continues to support the weapons ban but describes it as an issue for the future, not now. he says existing laws are enough. if president obama recently started down playing the former position as the presidential campaign has gotten started, mitt romney has tone a complete 180 on the issue. here's what he said when he was running for governor of massachusetts. >> we do have tough gun laws in massachusetts. i support them. i won't chip away at them. i believe they help protect us and provide for our safety. >> that was in 2002. running for governor. two years later governor romney signed a permanent assault weapons law. deadly assault weapons had no place in the commonwealth he said at the time. the next year in anticipation of a presidential run he began shifting his position on gun control. he designated may 7th right to
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bear arms day in massachusetts and he began quoting the national rifle association. in 2007 he became a lifetime member. after the nra's endorsement, he said at the time, i'm not sure he'll give it to me. i hope they will. also that year when asked on "meet the press" whether he'd bring back the federal assault weapons law, decide for yourself what he's saying here. >> i supported the assault weapon ban. >> you're still for it? >> and i -- let me describe it. >> you're still for it? >> let's describe what it is. i would have supported the original assault weapon ban. i signed an assault weapon ban in massachusetts as governor. because it provided for a relaxation of licensing requirements for gun owners in massachusetts which was a big plus. so both the pro gun and anti-gun lobby came together with a bill. i signed that. if there is determined to be from time to time a weapon of such lethality it poses a great risk to law enforcement personal it's something i would consider signing. >> he felt differently three years before when we signed that
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bill in massachusetts. back then there were plenty of weapons he considered lethal enough to ban. apparently not anymore. today both he and the president say existing laws are good enough. john king and gloria borger and david gergen. john, whatever position law make rs hold on stricter gun laws, a good idea or not, whenever the subject comes upmost of them can't change the subject fast enough. is it that divisive of an issue? >> it can be a tough issue wherever you are in the country. michael bloomberg, dianne feinstein have been consistent. they say the country needs to have a conversation about what they would call common sense gun laws. especially among most other democrats they view this as taboo. the legend of democratic politics is that it's probably one of the reasons al gore lost the white house in 2000. his campaign manager, our colleague donna brazile says not so much. there was clinton fatigue. other issues. he lost his home state of tennessee. west virginia. barack obama is looking at a map
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where he probably needs to win pennsylvania. he would like to win ohio. like to keep north carolina and virginia. endorsing new gun controls at this time by most democrats is considered too risky. they'd rather change the subject. >> david, it tuz seem like the conversation on guns is just frozen. >> it's terrible. listen, there was a president named bill clinton who had the guts to stand up on these issues. he did it in 1993, signed the brady law. 1994 an assault weapons plan. he came wup a bullet law. three laws. he got reelected. he showed some leadership. we don't see that today. >> glar ya, look at the polls regarding gun control. there has been a huge shift among americans in the past few decades from one side of the issue to the other. is there a sense of what's driving that change. >> as david was saying you might go back to 1994 when bill clinton and the congress actually passed that ban on assault weapons which has since expired. and when they passed that ban on
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assault weapons, the gun owners decided and the nra decided they needed to make sure that when that ban expired that nobody would renew it. it became a single issue for an awful lot of voters. also i think, anderson, you look at the sort of anti-government attitudes now that seem to be on the increase. we see that with the rise of the tea party, for example. if you're anti-big government, then you don't want government getting in the way of your second amendment rights. so i think you take all these things together, and the political issues that john was talking about, particularly in rural america, and among blue-collar voters, and you say that it's a formula for getting nothing done. >> john, for the politics on it for president obama, is that particularly sensitive? mostly among white working class voters? >> exactly. you know looking at the 2012 map it will be much tougher than 2008. so one of the states president obama, he turned north carolina from red to blue.
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turned virginia from red to blue. turned colorado where this tragedy occurred, the most recent tragedy, from red to blue. he needs to keep nevada in play. in all of those states it's risky to be for gun control. those blue-collar voters gloria was just talking about, if he uses white reagan democrat style blue-collar voters, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin at risk. if you're looking at this issue and looking at the presidential election, keep your hands off. the president promised in 2008 he would push new gun control laws. he never has and isn't about to now. >> david, look at the massachusetts campaign for mitt romney to today. what are the politics for him as he moves forward? >> he's got his base to worry about. he wants a high turnout from his base. when he was governor of massachusetts he said we have to have a ban on assault weapons. it was good for massachusetts. and now because he's chasing after his base, he's run away from that position. president obama campaigned in
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2008, said he would get a new assault weapons ban. one that gloria just said expired. he would renew it. here today his press secretary is telling us the gun laws on the books today are sufficient. >> anderson, you can make the case for president obama that if he wants to consolidate his base, what he thought to do is extend the assault weapons ban. which he has not done. but he's worried about those independent voters, 55% of them say they care more about gun owners than curtailing gun ownership, right? so this is where he's living right now. to attract those independent voters. i would argue on a congressional level it's really important to congressional democrats in the south. but i think the president has a little bit more wiggle room here than he thinks. particularly if he's trying to consolidate his base. >> it is fascinating. not my job to take a position one way or the other. how neither side really wants to
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have this discussion. both sides are kind of wanting to move away and stay off it as much as possible. david gergen, gloria borger, jonk king, thanks. a lot more to tell you tonight about the survivors of the aurora shooting. we continue to focus on the survivors, victims and those who've had hair lives forever changed. we'll talk to the father of this man, alex sullivan, killed on friday. it was his 27th birthday. sunday would have been his first wedding anniversary. also a young girl, a babysitter, kayla. one of the bravest 13-year-olds you'll ever meet. she tried to save the life of another child killed in the shooting. >> there's no words to describe what was going through my mind. i thought i was going to die.
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welcome back. christian bale, star of "the dark knight rises," was in aurora, colorado, today visiting people who were injured in the theater massacre. there's a picture of christian bale with a man shot in the leg. he released a statement saying words cannot express the horror he feels and his heart goes out to the victims and loved ones. amid all the grief and pain in aurora, there are some stories of survival. really amazing acts of friendship and courage and selflessness. we want to tell you some of those stories tonight as we
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continue to focus and remember the victims and focus on them. the youngest victim, veronica moser-sullivan, was just 6 years old. a vibrant little girl, her whole life ahead of her, swrus learned how to swim. that horrible night at the movie theater, the night veronica was killed and her mother was critically injured, a 13-year-old girl named kaelin, veronica's baby-sitter, desperately tried to save the little girl. kayla is just 13 years old. she showed tremendous courage even though she herself thought she was going to die. poppy harlow spoke to her. >> we just put kaelin into your hands, lord, your loving, merciful -- >> reporter: prayers for 13-year-old kaelin, a survivor. >> he just kept firing, and then he would stop like he was reloading. and he kept firing at anyone he saw. i thought i was going to die. >> reporter: you thought you were going to die? >> i've never had that feeling before in my life and it's the scariest feeling. to think that you're going to die. >> reporter: kaylan watched as three people with her at the batman screening were shot,
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including the 6-year-old girl she regularly baby-sat, veronica moser-sullivan. >> i felt like it was partly my job to protect her. and even if i wasn't her baby-sitter, i would still feel the same because she was just -- she was just a child. >> reporter: lying on the theater floor, she called 911. >> i put my hand on veronica's, like, rib cage to see if she was breathing. but she wasn't breathing so i started freaking out. and then they told me to do cpr and i told them i couldn't because her mother was on top of her and couldn't move. >> reporter: veronica's mother, ashley, was shot in the neck and abdomen. she lived. veronica did not. >> she liked to draw. and she liked to look at the -- i had a bunny -- well, i have a bunny in my room she always liked to look at the bunny.
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>> reporter: are you okay? take your time. her pastor calls her a girl with a servant's heart. >> she's the type of kid that would come in a room and say, "what can i do to help?" you know, how can i give of myself? a young kid, that really can't be taught. >> reporter: how has this changed your life? >> there's certain things i can't, like, hear, or certain things i can't look at or certain things that i can't do or even wear. >> reporter: like what? >> like the clothes that i wore that night. i don't want to put those on again. popping sounds. or, like, banging, if it sounds a certain way. and i can't really look at popcorn. >> reporter: i know you want to say something to ashley, the
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mother of veronica, the little girl you tried to help. >> all i want right now is to go visit ashley. >> reporter: kaylan may not have been physically wounded. but she still bears the scars. poppy harlow, cnn, aurora, colorado. >> kaylan seems amazing. says she either wants to be an actress or doctor. she said she didn't know what kind of doctor she'd want to be before this tragedy but now she wants to help people in the icu. alex sullivan died in theater nine. it was his 27th birthday. he'd gone to the film to celebrate. he was just two days shy of his first wedding anniversary. another young life cut far too short. his family began a frantic search. after hearing about the shooting, they rushed to the staging area for information. his father, tom sullivan, on friday, carried a photograph of his son. >> this is him. his name is alex sullivan. today is his birthday! >> alex with an "x"? >> yes. >> how old is alex? >> he's 27. we're looking for him.
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they don't have him on any list yet. >> he was at the movie? >> at the movie. >> at the movie to celebrate, as i said, his 27th birthday. earlier that night, here's what alex tweeted. oh, man, one hour till the movie and it's going to be the best birthday ever. alex did not survive theater number nine. i spoke to his father, tom sullivan, earlier. first of all, i'm just so sorry for your loss. i cannot imagine what you and your family are going through right now. i've read so many words describing alex. people saying he was full of love. always laughing. a big heart. how do you describe him? what do you want people to know about him? >> well, i mean, that's it. from when he was a baby, that's what we used to say to each other. he was my best buddy in the whole world. and we said that back and forth until, you know, even last week. you know, that's how we referred to each other. everywhere i went, i mean, i always went with him places. people would say, tom, when i see you, you know, you're always with your kids.
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and i said, well, you know, that's why you have them. i mean, they're supposed to be with you. and that's what we did. we went everywhere. >> it was alex's 27th birthday. he was celebrating by going to see that movie, right? >> well, they always -- we always have gone to the movies on his birthday. we started back when he was 6 years old. we went and saw "the rocketeer." the reason we wanted to see "the rocketeer" was because after the movie was over, they had a special at pizza hut and he would get a special little kids mug and a hat and all of that. and we went to the pizza hut and they were all out of the promotion. so he was really disappointed. but him and megan, his sister, were so hungry, we decided just to order a large pizza and we shared it. >> and -- >> but we always go to the movies. several years after that, yeah, several years after that, we went to -- on his birthday, went and saw "jurassic park."
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and when "the raptors" come out, i have never even to this day had my hand squeezed as hard as it was when those raptork were running around. and he was so scared. and that was the only movie that he's never sat all the way through. we ended up running up to the top the theater and spending the rest of the movie peeking around the corner, trying to see it. and when that movie was over, we went across the parking lot to the red robin and had his birthday dinner over there. which is where he was -- you know, all of his friends were with him at the movie there. he enjoyed, you know, even when he was 9 years old his birthday with people from red robin. >> it was not only alex's birthday. he was also getting ready, i understand, to celebrate his first wedding anniversary. i think it was going to be on sunday. to his wife, cassandra. >> it was sunday. >> how is she doing? >> she's coping. she's coping.
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>> is there anything else you want people to know, that you want to say? we've been trying over the last couple of days just to talk to as many family members as possible and just remember as many -- and celebrate the lives of the 12. and i just wanted to give you an opportunity. if there's anything else you want people to know. >> well, he was just such a fun guy. and he was so empathetic, you know, to people. and cared about people. and don't be surprised if at some point somebody that you're talking with, you'll say something about alex, and they'll say, you mean that big guy from colorado who was the movie guy and loved hockey and all of that? and you'll say yeah. well, i know him. you know, i met him. i mean, we're getting things that -- we got a fruit basket from a company that he only worked for for three months. and they didn't want to let him
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go, but the business was doing so poorly they couldn't afford him. and that was eight years ago. i mean, he affected, you know, that employer so much that, you know, we've got a fruit basket at our house. i mean, so don't worry. you'll run into somebody who knows him, and they'll tell you all about him. i mean, he's just the best. as i say, my best buddy in the whole world. >> on sunday, there was a memorial service and i found one of the things most moving is when they read out the names of each person and the crowd roared back "we will remember you." and so that is my hope and my prayer. we will remember alex and all the others. tom, i appreciate you being on. thank you. >> oh, yeah. we well never forget him. >> tom, thank you. tom sullivan. amid the tragedy in colorado, some incredible stories of survival and friendship. best friends stephanie davies and allie young who are seen here with president obama stuck
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you hear a lot about miracles after a tragedy like the one in aurora, and you hear about heroes. that's the way it should be. the fact st s the real miracle would be a time machine set before last thursday when the alleged fw ed gunman went to th theater. miracles and heros, they're the best we have right now. despite the heart ache, there's comfort in that. randi kaye has more. >> reporter: in a community draped in sadness, there are tiny miracles being born every day. like baby hugo.
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born to katie and caleb medley just after 7:00 a.m. this morning. katie and caleb are high school sweethearts. they knew katie was expected to deliver the baby this week so as a treat decided to take in the midnight showing of "the dark knight rises." katie and the baby inside her weren't hurt when the gunfire exploded by caleb was shot in the face. he lost his right eye, has some brain damage and is in critical condition. his friend broke down speaking with cbs. >> we talk to him because we know he can hear us. we tell him that he needs to get better because he needs to be a dad. >> reporter: doctors here at the hospital have caleb in a medically induced coma. his brother says caleb seems to understand what happened. what's unclear is whether or not he's aware he has a new baby boy. the miracle of friendship may have saved the life of allie young who was inside theater
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nine with her best friend, stephanie davies. >> there's smoke, there's explosions, there's blood, there's death, there's guns being fired. >> i just remember opening my eyes. i'm on the ground. blood everywhere. >> reporter: allie was struck in the neck. refusing to let her friend die, stephanie did something, something so selfless. she stayed with her friend and applied pressure on the hole in her neck. even president obama shared their story after visiting them at the hospital here in aurora. >> allie told stephanie she needed to run. stephanie refused to go. instead, actually, with her other hand, called 911 on her cell phone. >> reporter: after the shooting finally stopped, stephanie carried her friend across two parking lots to an ambulance. >> she saved my life, which i, you know, that's always going to be, you know, a little emotional for me. >> reporter: it is no small miracle that petra anderson is alive. the 22-year-old was hit four
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times when the suspected shooter opened fire in the movie theater. three shotgun bullets hit her arm. another sailed through her nose, up the back of her cranium, hitting her skull. her pastor, brad straight, wrote on his blog, quote, her injuries were severe. and her condition was critical. the doctors prior to surgery were concerned because so much of the brain had been traversed by the bullet. doctors haven't shared exactly what happened, but the young woman was probably saved by something she didn't even know she had. a small channel of fluid running through her skull that can only be picked up with a c.a.t. scan. that channel of fluid likely maneuvered the bullet in the least harmful direction. in a stroke of luck, her pastor blogs, the shotgun buck shot entered her brain from the exact point of the channel. like a marble through a small tube. it channels the bullet from petra's nose through her brain. it turns slightly several times. in the process, the bullet misses all the vital areas of
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the brain. according to her pastor, if the bullet had entered just a millimeter in any direction, her brain likely would have been destroyed. petra has already started to speak and walk again and is expected to make a full recovery. >> it's so incredible. how is her family doing? >> reporter: they are relieved, anderson, that she is going to recover. they're dealing with so much. right now they have petra in the hospital obviously trying to get better. and her mother is battling terminal breast cancer right now. because they're running out of money, anderson, they're trying to decide what will they be able to pay for? petra's medical care or her mother's cancer treatment? they're asking for help. we have a website if you want to help petra's family. go to also for caleb medley's family it's the same situation, anderson. his bills could reach up to $2 million we're told. the website to help caleb is
4:31 am >> we'll put both those web addresses at our website at appreciate the reporting. thanks. the quirk of anatomy that allowed this remarkable young woman to survive the way she has. we're joined by 360 m.d. and practicing neuroseason dr. sanjay gupta. so what kind of birth defect could cause this to happen, sanjay? >> there's a couple. they're rare. i sort of was trying to piece this together, anderson, reading some of the descriptions of what happened to her. i want to show you a couple of images. i don't know if you can see these, but there's a normal looking brain and then the other side is a brain that has something known as a cavum septum pellucidum. it's an extra fluid-filled space sort of in the middle of the brain. you can imagine if someone were to be injured, have a bullet injury as was the case here, and the bullet were to traverse through that fluid-filled space. not hitting any normal brain. it could limit if not completely eliminate the type of injury.
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also, there's one more image over here. this is slightly more common. if you're looking at it now. it's called an arachnoid cyst. again, just a big cyst in the brain. it's filled with cerebral spinal fluid. there's no normal brain in that white area. that white fluid, if a bullet were to go through there it could be, again, life saving. i actually saw an example like this back when i was a resident in training, anderson. where someone had what seemed to be a very significant bullet injury to the brain. they had this arack noid cyst. they didn't know about it. it probably saved their life. it sounds like that's what they were describing. >> you're at the international aids conference in washington. i was there over the weekend. for an event for bill gates. you spoke to a guy who scientists say is the only man to be cured of aids. i met him saturday night. explain this. >> yeah. it's a remarkable story. let me just say because you and i both covered stories like this. scientists don't throw around the word "cured" very often.
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there's lots scientists here and they are using that word to describe timothy ray brown. his story is an interesting one. he had hiv. he developed aids. on top of it, he developed leukemia. if you can imagine that. as part of his leukemia treatment, he got a bone marrow transplant. and they believe the bone marrow transplant, in fact, in a way taught his cells in his body to reject or not accept infiltration by the aids virus. they're not exactly sure why. they think it was a genetic difference in the bone marrow he received. the question as you might guess, anderson, is not so much should we do bone marrow transplants on patients with hiv, it's what can we learn and can we teach cells in other people's body to do is the same thing. it's a clinical cure. he's been five years off of meds. normal weight, normal appetite. he says he's clinically cured. has not had a problem with hiv/aids, anderson. >> it's not something though
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that can immediately be utilized for other people who are -- who have aids or hiv positive. this is something which -- i mean, it may give some indication of something down the road, but we're a long way off from a cure, yes? >> i think so. but again, the idea that they're even using the word "cure" i think is a big deal. from being here, talking to scientists over the years, i get the sense this isn't going to come in little drips and small increments. i think once they sort of seize upon what exactly, you know, constitutes a clinical cure it could happen quickly. it's not going to happen tomorrow, to your point. it may be still a decade away. but i think it's going to be a sea change based on what i'm hearing when it eventually does happen, anderson. >> exciting, all these developments. sanjay, appreciate it, thanks. >> thanks, anderson. cnn's ivan watson has made his way back inside syria. where the fighting is raging and the regime appears to be doubling down. he saw aftermath in just one town. he joins me ahead. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back's a little
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fighting continues to rage across syria. opposition forces say at least 133 people were killed just today. bashar al assad's forces have launched counteroffenses in the two biggest cities. here's what itn journalist alex thompson found in one neighborhood where opposition fighters had recently gained some traction. >> reporter: government forces turned helicopter gunships, tanks, mortar, rockets, heavy machine guns on this district for three days. the government says in two days' time, families could begin moving back into midan. take a look at what the family will find when they move back to this house. people say yes, of course, the rebel fighters have been pushed out. but they'll fight another day in another way. there's no chance president assad will win this civil war. >> the regime does appear to be doubling down. yesterday syria's foreign
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ministry spokesman set off a new international outcry when he raised the threat of syria using its chemical weapons if it comes under foreign attack. cnn's ivan watson has managed to get back inside syria. here's what he found in a town just outside aleppo. >> reporter: this bullet-riddled town is mostly deserted except for rebels and a few shell-shocked residents. this street was nicknamed the street of death, because anybody who set foot on here was likely to be shot. the retreating government troops left behind a mini graveyard of burned-out armored vehicles. and pro-regime graffiti with a terrifying warning. the words say either assad or we'll burn this city. >> another sign of how bad things have become. according to the u.n. more than 10,000 iraqi refugees who'd sought refuge in syria returned to iraq in the last week. it is that dangerous. ivan watson joins me now from inside syria. ivan, i want to ask you something that you witnessed, that you were able to videotape.
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a man basically kind of pleading for his life and then being kind of man handled and taken away. do you know what happened to that person or what he was accused of doing? >> well, the rebels told us that he was a suspected looter and that he'd be brought before some kind of rebel judicial council that had been set up. the rebels have had to fill the security vacuum and act as basically police in the areas that they've taken over. but the way the guy was screaming and the words he said, please don't kill me, please pardon me, suggested he was terribly, terribly afraid. and given the scale of the atrocities we've seen in syria, you have to wonder whether or not he was being set up for some kind of revenge punishment. >> ivan, you've spent time inside syria before with opposition fighters, with rebels. how has the situation changed from your vantage point? do they look more organized? better armed?
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>> they're definitely more organized. we see rebel battalions all throughout the country side in this rebel controlled enclave here. they have better weapons. we've seen them carrying a belgium-made assault rifles they refer to as nato, after the nato military alliance. we're hearing about much better rocket propelled grenades that have prove ed effective at taki out tanks and armored personnel carriers. so they're definitely better organized. there are fighters trickling in across the border. we came in with a young fighter, a syrian who bought up equipment in dubai, working as a car mechanic, and was coming in to start his own rebel brigade. a lot of this seems to be galvanized by the deadly bombing last wednesday in damascus that killed four senior government security chiefs. that's pushed the rebels to try to capitalize on that moment of weakness for the regime. to try to seize as much territory as possible. >> how capable are they actually
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holding on to territory? >> reporter: i've been driving on sections of highway that i couldn't drive on last february and march. so it shows they have been able to capture towns. we visited one town that had really been devastated by months of fighting and ultimately the rebels were able to capture it. but it is slow going. they're going meter by meter, foot by foot, village by village. and as they push the regime forces back, the government forces still fire deadly salvos of artillery from a distance. but there's no question that they've hardened up the front lines and they've been able to establish enclaves, particularly along the borders. and they've seized several keyboarder gates, at least three, they claim, within the last week. and if they can hold on to those, then they'll be able to establish a buffer zone and doing it on their own without
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the help, for example, in libya that we saw of a nato aerial bombardment. >> who are the fighters you're seeing? they're obviously concerned. there have been reports about involvement of jihadist groups, al qaeda influenced groups. in addition to the local fighters who have just taken up arms after their demonstrations were attacked. what are you seeing? >> there's no question that the overwhelming number of fighters that i've seen are syrians. and they're from these communities. they're students. they're defector police officers. many defector soldiers. i got a tour with a guy who was a real estate agent, who's a grandfather who now wears camouflage and is a rebel fighter. but there are some foreigners. i met a man who came up to me and said he was a turk. in the community i'm staying in right now, we can't tell you the name of this village for security reasons, the locals say
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there are a number of north african fighters here. the locals seem to welcome them. the problem, though, is that there aren't enough weapons for all the volunteers. whether they're syrians or foreign fighters that are coming in to fight. and that's what the rebel commanders are demanding help with. and what i'm really starting to hear, anderson, is anger at the u.s. and at the european union. there's been a lot of talk against bashar al assad and his dictatorship, but no help to the opposition here. and for the first time, i'm hearing people actually cursing the u.s. >> ivan watson, appreciate the reporting. stay safe. thanks. well, tonight, a mystery deepens in iowa. two young cousins who appeared to have vanished without a trace. what new clues have police turned up? and where the investigation is heading now. that's next.  [ male announcer ] when he was only 4 years old,
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♪ it's amazing how far you can go with a little help along the way. ♪ td ameritrade. proud sponsor of the 2012 u.s. olympic team. tonight in "crime & punishment," two young cousins in iowa seem to have vanished without a trace. they went for a bike ride 11 days ago. they haven't been seen since. now, authorities have pulled out all the stops to find them. the search has been intense. tom foreman has the latest on the investigation. >> reporter: a week and a half since 8-year-old elizabeth collins and 10-year-old lyric cook-morrissey went for a bike ride, and still there is no sign of what happened to them. despite the efforts of hundreds of volunteers, dozens of police, the fbi and even tracking dogs, investigators appear to have few clues. elizabeth's parents on abc's "good morning america" this week. >> they just tell us they do
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have a couple of leads and that is it. >> it's as though they disappeared into thin air in broad daylight. >> reporter: shortly after they vanished, attention focused on 25-acre meyers lake. the girls bikes and a purse were found not far from it. dogs indicated they might be in the water. but after an exhaustive search which included using sonar and partially draining the lake -- >> investigators are confident that the two girls are not in meyers lake. this case is now being handled as an abduction. >> reporter: that revelation led to a fresh surge of hope for some searchers. especially since it came along with police claims that lyric's parents, misty and dan morrissey who've had drug troubles in the past, were not fully cooperating. >> i did a polygraph this morning. dan has yet to do his. he's going to do his later. several of our other family members did theirs yesterday. >> reporter: since then police suggest the couple has become more helpful, the mother taking a second polygraph test which
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she says she passed. and the mystery has just grown deeper. >> it's just baffling to try to figure out the pieces to the puzzle. looking at it, it doesn't make any sense. >> reporter: police have put out a call for a man seen boating on the lake but not as a suspect. they say they just want to know if he saw something. indeed, that's been their message to everyone from the very start. >> this town isn't the biggest but it's certainly not the smallest either, so someone had to see these two girls. >> reporter: meanwhile, the families are putting out a call of their own to anyone who might have their girls. >> take them somewhere safe. take them to a gas station. target. just take them anywhere. we miss them dearly. >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn. >> we'll continue to follow the investigation. we'll be right back.
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time for the rediculist. a solution that has plagued campaigns over and over. politicians use a song at campaign rallies or made in an ad. musicians ask them to stop using their work without permission. there's one man, motivated, prolific idea man who has a solution. he has taken it upon himself to compose a campaign song for mitt romney. let's take a listen, shall we? ♪ world war iii, that's obama's plan for you and me ♪ ♪ that's why i'm voting for mitt romney, he's a hero in my
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mind ♪ >> yes. our old friend william tapley is back. you remember william taple yes, bill to you and me. youtube poster extraordinary. you probably remember him by his other name. a few of them. william tapley, also known as the third eagle of the apock lip and the co-prophet of the end times. >> here's a small sampling of his previous work. >> you will not be raptured if you are using condoms. >> the topic of this program is why a woman should not be president of the united states. >> the news media is demonic. ♪ >> he's a renaissance man, no doubt about it. when i heard the co-prophet of the end times had a new video and a new song, i got to say i
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was just happy to hear he seems to be branching out from what we all know is his favorite topic. he and i actually went back and forth about this for a period of time last summer. that topic being, of course, how in his mind the denver international airport is chalk full of phallic symbols. >> the bird standing up right is phallic. the shape of the sign is phallic. even the name is phallic. many of the shapes on the horse's tail and mane are phallic shapes. these sure look like phallic symbols to me. i don't know what you think, mr. cooper. maybe you think they look like ice cream combnes. here we see the testicle area, and out here the phallus. what do you suppose this street name is that runs right down the center? you guessed it. that's pena boulevard. >> yeah. so i'm going to go out on a limb on this one. i'm going to guess if the romney campaign is not going to be
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interested in the song stylings of the third eagle of the apocalyp apocalypse. i haven't called them or anything on this, but i'm just guessing. he will always soar to great heights here on the riduculist. that's it for us. "early start" begins now. the horse race for the white house. it's close. a brand-new poll shows one candidate with a slight lead. street fight in syria. the assad regime sending in more troops as it struggles to hold the country's largest city. mystery solved. take a look. police say this surveillance video of a man putting a woman in the trunk of a car isn't what it looks like. not sure what it looks like, but i promise we will tell you what it looks like. there it is. >> there. >> i think it's more dumb than it is scary in the end. stay tuned. we'll tell you exactly what's going op. good morning. welcome to "early start."
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i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. 5:00 a.m. in the east. coming one a man who says he has been cured of hiv. dr. sanjay gupta talked to him. you'll hear about that later this hour. really remarkable. plus, brett favre couldn't stay retired after all. he's back in football taking a job you might not expect. we'll tell you all about it. stay tuned. you need to watch before he retires again. >> i think it's kind of exciting, actually. i wanted to ask you about that. we'll chat about it. first the latest presidential poll numbers are out this morning. they reveal president obama's ahead of mitt romney by six points. the brand-new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows obama at 49% to romney's 43%. that's a three percentage point increase from just last month. cnn's political director mark preston joins us now from washington, d.c. nice to have you with us this morning, mark. the poll shows the race is in a statistical dead heat. there are also bullet points that both candidates will find a bit concerning. can you share those


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